User talk:Kay T

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2007 Rita Page?

Hi Kay, I was messing around with Laura Lee Guhrke's page and wanted to add her 2007 Rita finalist thing. I'm looking through all the books listed on the 2007 RITA page and they all link back to the generic RITA page, not the 2007 one?? (Well, I haven't checked them all yet. :) I guess as a larger question, is there an easy way to look up the 'wiki name' of a page when you want to create a link to it?

Since I started the review blog in May, I've read a whole lot of 'new to me' authors so that's been a big bonus. Of course the impact on my time and budget hasn't been as positive. :) I thought I would start with my best reviews and move down in creating pages here, so the ones I've done I really like. Glad you like them too. :)--Heloise Abelard 08:39, 23 August 2007 (PDT)

easy way to look up the 'wiki name' of a page when you want to create a link to it? No I don't think there is an easy way to find the name of the page except through go/search. If you open another window it might help, "go" goes to the page, "search" finds pages with those words on it. Another feature that sometimes helps is the "What links here" which will show you the list of pages linking to the page your are on/editing. Finally, there is a page under "Special pages" that lists pages, but I think they are in some weird order.
I am not sure about the RITA page links, because, although I created the 2007 RITA page I did not create many of the book pages (or if I did, I forget). Sometimes we just get lazy and put in the generic link thinking that at least it is a link and better than nothing! Maybe the thinking was that the person linking to RITA might just want to know what RITA was and the generic page was the best place to send them.
Another thing to get the hang of (which I have not yet figured out) is how to carry on a conversation here. One side on one user's page and the other on the other??? Aaghhh! Keeping it here for now. --Kay T 13:23, 23 August 2007 (PDT)
For what it's worth, I use search first (search is a girl's best friend, if you ask me). That lets me get the correct name of a page. I'm not sure if this answers Heloise's (love your name, it's so romance) question, but as I've (slowly) added the RITA-winning books (and finalists), I've linked back to the specific category (see [[The Husband Trap). For finalists, however, it might make more sense to link to the main RITA page as, at least for very current years, we're listing finalists and winners there. Which, I see now, I didn't do.
As always, I remain open to suggestions.
When it comes to page management, I am an avowed, fanatic user of Firefox, which allows me to have many tabs open simultaneously. I can work in one tab, search in another, have Google open in a third, the category page in a fourth, Amazon in it obvious that I'm a lunatic? I know Safari does tabs and believe (though haven't tried as I'm on a Mac) that the new Internet Explorer is a tab-friendly place. Generally, I'm doing a lot of research and back-and-forth, so this works really well for me.
Finally, and I feel bad about cluttering up Kay's page (okay, I don't), is it time to start a list for discussion, etc? Thoughts? Ideas? I've also considered starting a RomanceWiki blog, but it's more thought than action (obviously....--Romancewiki 21:36, 24 August 2007 (PDT)

Wow, thanks for the thorough answers/discussion. I'll try using search more as I'm moving around looking for pages, and it sounds like "What links here" would also be very useful. (You mean I don't have to try every single link on the whole dang page to find one that links back! Duh, Heloise.) I think my problem with the 2007 RITA page was that the name of it actually includes the word Winners. Too much for my brain to handle without some caffeine.

Thanks for the nice comment on my name. I was very pleased to see Heloise and Abelard mentioned on one of the History of Romance pages! I was a Medieval History major in college, eons ago!--Heloise Abelard 13:45, 27 August 2007 (PDT)

Page Deletion Flagging

Hi Kay T. Thanks for the notes on my mistake. However, in other work I did discover a double of a page for the same title and flagged one for deletion. Page flagged for deletion versus more corrected formatted pagetitle. I have also linked the second for a Title disambiguation page since there is more than one Mirage book listed. Thanks. --DawnBurn 13:00, 31 August 2007 (PDT) (bad sig, correcting)

Per Romancewiki I changed the 'by' author page to Mirage - Monica Burns and changed all the associated links. --DawnBurn 13:33, 31 August 2007 (PDT)

Also (and this is only a somewhat related question) Do you actually have the power to delete? Can you tell me who does? I have put redirects on two ampersanded titles that I'm aware of - Bewitched, Bothered, & Bevampyred, and Rejection, Romance, & Royalties, but they still exhibit some weird behavior - showing up under the "AUTHOR NAME" whatlinkshere, and sometimes coming up as empty pages under "First Word, Second Word/Everything else gone", and showing up under double-redirects because the ampersanded page is un-editable (and technically, no links are titled FW, SW/Nothing Page, even though they link there) ...or at least, I've had all these problems with Firefox for the Mac. Example:

Any way we could make it a priority to delete ampersanded stuff (and maybe add that to the style manual...I haven't checked to see if it's there)? I suppose this is a good lesson for me in how to become less anal, but until I learn it, I think this is going to drive me nuts. especially since "Bevampyred" is an anthology linked to ~80 times --Robini 08:16, 20 September 2007 (PDT)

Yes! I have the POWER!!! Whooo! My only concern is that someone might try to recreate the ampersand version of these titles (because that is how they appear in print) and then we are back where we started from. The redirect is for those who might type it in? I think I did add in the style manual not to use ampersands. The pages are actually editable in Internet Explorer. Let me think on it. It used to drive me crzy when Romancewiki would not immediately delete my requests (see nagging on her page), but now that I have the POWER I feel more cautious - Ha! --Kay T 18:38, 20 September 2007 (PDT)

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I saw that!!! Yes, I am insanely busy with work right now (and averaging a 3-hour a day commute), so Kay has all sorts of magic powers. Plus she's way more organized than me. I tend to do "clean-up" stuff in fits of passion (much like the way I clean my home), so it's good that Kay can be the Mistress of Deletion. Hmm, she needs a better title than that... Off to work on fresh content. --Romancewiki 10:07, 22 September 2007 (PDT)


Oh oops. One more thing. I have a person who isn't a romance reader, per se, but is needing some work tasks for a few hours a month. She works for the husband and he has extra time. While I have a long list of *my* projects on tap, I was wondering if there was anything specific you wanted done. Think more along the lines of maintenance, etc.--Romancewiki 10:07, 22 September 2007 (PDT)

The first time I deleted something I was so worried and it sort of "scared" me! I have been reluctant to do it again! although, of course, nothing ever goes away here at the wiki. I am so non-technical, I can't even imagine the maintenance type things that have to be done around here. Did you see I set up a chat page? I am not sure there are any technical things that might make that easier. Oh, did you ever figure out if bots work here (am I behind the curve on that one?)?? We could probably use something automated to do some clean up, but with the new worker-bees around here, categories, orphans, etc. are getting cleaned up like magic!--Kay T 14:35, 22 September 2007 (PDT)

Hi Kay T

Thanks for the welcome and creating the Harlequin category -- nice unmbrella page for lots of pages :) --Amy 11:57, 31 August 2007 (PDT)

Same Title Multiple Authors

Replying here so you definitely see it...I looked at the page. The only thing that jumped out at me is that the example given seems to be incorrect--It's given as "Between the Sheets - Tricia Adams" instead of "Between The Sheets - Tricia Adams" with the "The" capitalized. We're still going with everything in a page title should be capitalized, right? At least, that's what I thought we were doing, and how I've tried to do it (at least since I figured that out), so that it's standard (whereas if some words are capitalized and some not, and someone does a search for it one way and doesn't find it, they might start a page, even though there's already one for it the other way). But then I couldn't find anywhere that it was specified that everything in a page name should be capitalized and wanted to make sure this definitely was the way it should be, so we can put it somewhere and make sure all contributors know it. --Leigh

This was my fault Leigh and thanks for catching it. I didn't know the Manual of Style of caps yet so I did it wrong. Sorry about that and thanks to you & Kay for fixing it! --DawnBurn 16:13, 7 September 2007 (PDT)

To Have And To Hold

Kay, I set up the page for the To Have And To Hold imprint as To Have And To Hold Series since there are several books with that title so I was leaving the general To Have And To Hold page for those. I see that you shifted it over to the general page. If you don't want it called To Have And To Hold Series, what should it be called? To Have And To Hold Imprint? Because there's going to need to be a Same Title Muliple Authors page on the general one. --Leigh

replying over here...I can move it back, since I'm going to go ahead and make that Same Title page (which I probably should have done in the first place, so my bad). Do you think it should be titled Imprint so there's no confusion, because that's fine with me too. Thanks. --Leigh
Maybe save the "series" for numbered series and make this an imprint? Whatever you decide is fine. We can also put a note at the top of the page, something like:
For books entitled To Have And To Hold see here. and link to the new page.--Kay T 13:27, 13 September 2007 (PDT)
I bumped it back to the Series page for now, because I realized that all the individual book pages I set up link back to that and would have to be changed too, and I'm feeling lazy at the moment. But it probably should be changed to Imprint (with all the book pages to match...luckily it was a short-lived line). I'll try to get to it sometime soon. --Leigh
On second thought, I think I'm going to leave it as Series. I realized that the reason I called it a series in the first place is because it is a Numbered series, like all the Harlequins and Silhouettes that appear on the Numbered Series category page. Plus, when I found out there was a book called Love and Laughter, I changed the Harlequin Love and Laughters to Love And Laughter Series, with all the book pages to match, so all those would have to be changed again as well, which seems like a lot of unnecessary work. Hope that's okay. --Leigh

Sounds good. --Kay T 14:47, 14 September 2007 (PDT)

Or how about RomanceWiki: Policies?--Kay T 15:48, 13 November 2007 (PST)

Discussion moved to RomanceWiki talk: Policies.--Kay T 16:04, 13 November 2007 (PST)

Hi Kay

Thanks for the welcome! The RomanceWiki is very cool. Thanks for making it so easy to add/edit entries.

Lisa :)

Anthologies with same title

Hi Kay T. I replied to your post over on my discussion page but wanted to make sure you saw my reply. I like your solution of using the publisher name if two anthologies share the same title, so I'm going to add that to the help pages as well. Thanks for your input :) --Amy 13:58, 23 October 2007 (PDT)

Publishers and Books with Same Name

Kay -- Amy had a question about the above and I was wondering if you'd have time to weigh in. She posted at RomanceWiki:Community Discussion (got it backward the first time).--Romancewiki 21:08, 30 November 2007 (PST)

What Kay T Is Reading

Do let me know about the Brockway -- she's one of those authors that I really enjoy but don't, well, seek out. I've heard interesting comments about this new one, and am interested in your take. In the meantime, life is crazy, crazy, crazy for me until mid-March (actually, July, but it all settles down to a manageable roar in March). I am finding, no surprise, that wiki-ing is a great way to relieve stress. However, if you think I've gone missing for too long, do not worry -- we have a few conferences and are moving out due to a remodel...--Romancewiki 21:19, 24 January 2008 (PST)

Thanks for the feedback on Skinny Dipping. I am on the fence with this one (reviews seeming to go in both directions). I am, alas, not finding anything to read right now. Desperately searching, nothing catching my imagination. Too much stress in my world right now -- we're prepping for two out-of-town conferences and packing up our entire house because we're moving out while we remodel (which, fingers crossed, will allow us to keep our sanity while allowing the contractors to do their thing in a timely manner). I have a fantasy series from Luna that might be on my next list...either that or some *very* old medical romances (late fifties) that I picked up in a collectible book store. Might be fun to try those out.
Luckily, Leigh and Amy have been going gangbusters on adding new content. They make me feel slackerish!--Romancewiki 20:15, 30 January 2008 (PST)
Thanks for the mini-review. We are heading to NY next weekend for a conference (I'm appearing in my BS guise), so I'm going to need airplane reading. I haven't read Lippi, but will check her out. As far as Susan Elizabeth Phillips is concerned, I ran across my hardcover of This Heart Of Mine while cleaning out the garage (we're doing serious, major Salvation Army donatins) and set it aside to reread. My personal favorite re-read of her is Dream A Little Dream. I cry every time. Every friggin' time. You know how sometimes in you're in those moods and, well, when I am, I pull out that book.
It's funny what you said about prologues. Hate them. Really hate them. As will be noted in my review of a book with one, should the author be so inelegant to include one. That being said, I don't mind a good one. They are rare and far in between, but when a talented author gets a good prologue in her mind, I can roll with it (most authors use prologues -- and I'm guessing JC has this objection -- to force information down the throat of the reader in a clunky manner; however, I do recall that Nora Roberts has done a few prologues that actually hook the reader without forcing information...must recall the books; also, extending this really long parenthetical, I cannot type in this editing box without using wiki formatting. Probably should get out of the house more!).


Belated thanks for the belated welcome.  :) I haven't logged in for a while so I didn't see the comments. I'm a huge fan of wikis, though, so hopefully I'll get a chance to hang around some more.


I didn't get a notice that my page had been updated. Hmm. As always, you're on top of everything. Good holidays? --Romancewiki 10:54, 28 December 2008 (PST)

I have been away so long I forgot how to do things! But I did drop by around Christmas. I had to get a new computer so have been housekeeping and moving things from one computer to another. Just got back from your neck of the woods - SoCal is so warm! It is still chilly here, at least as of today. --Kay T 13:23, 16 January 2009 (PST)

Two Pages, One Name

I'm not sure how that was possible at all (and if it is, how come I never get away with it?). For obvious reasons, I'm going to be all delete on one of them... I know I've gotten a warning, so there must be a weird, subtle difference that I'm missing. Of course, I'm brain dead right now. They say bad things happen in threes, and server deaths seem to be one of them. A client's server, which has performed flawlessly for longer than you'd expect, gave up the ghost today. That's three. We're done! --Romancewiki 04:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Trying again to see if you get notified. I'm suddenly (and happily) getting notifications again. Weird. The database, in case you care, is massive! Kirk did some clean-up and compacting that seemed to help. He also upgraded the software. So far, so stable (she says, tempting fate). If you want to go ahead and delete, feel free. I tend to do big dumps and then forget and then I remember and do a big delete (and of course, little deletes as I go along and discover stuff that Does Not Belong).
  • I did do a huge amount of research yesterday. I just needed to close down my mind from work, so I did a whole bunch on my author research list. Will hopefully have time to do a massive content upload this weekend. Have about three articles to write first!--Romancewiki 20:05, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Links to Anthology

Kay, In doing some work on the Louise Allen page, I've included her novella in an anthology. I don't understand why the other novellas/short stories, which I have found in the Wiki already, by searching the category sheik, are not linking to this page? Is there a time lapse for the system to adjust or do I need to add the hyper-links myself? Bluestocking 11:00 20 February 2009 (CST)

I put an answer on your talk page! Thanks for all of your work on the wiki.--Kay T 19:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)